chaila: by me (tscc - jesse/riley)
chaila ([personal profile] chaila) wrote in [community profile] tightpresent2013-05-08 09:03 pm

Gift Vid: The Dream Before - for ghost lingering

Title: The Dream Before
Recipient: ghost lingering
Vidder: Sanguinity
Music: Laurie Anderson, "The Dream Before"
Summary: To repair the things that have been broken.
Notes: canon-typical violence

Link: Link to signed vid post
ghost_lingering: Weaver gets down to Savannah's level and looks her in the eyes (daughters of robots)

[personal profile] ghost_lingering 2013-05-12 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
!!!!! omg, this is the perfect song EVER for time travel. I'm going to have to watch this many times more before I'm totally coherent, but omg, I just … I love how you show how people get sent back to change things and then it doesn't always work or work out the way they want and how time travel is messy. And I love how this is framed as a conversation & how Derek's motivation is Kyle -- you basically started this vid by using some of my absolute favorite scenes (when Derek and Jesse meet outside the bunker, when John gives the ball back to Kyle) and I just … I'm really incoherent about this.

The storm being Vic & Charles Fischer (Skynet) and then later time travel is just lovely. And I love how you implicate Derek in Charles Fischer's turn to evil, since that is how I've always read it. (Well, once I got past the idea that Warren grows up into Toby Zeigler -- multifannishness gets confusing sometimes.) I also love how you show that future!Andy is basically giving Derek the ok for killing past!Andy or at least that future!Andy knows that Derek is probably going to kill past!Andy and not stopping him from going back; that always fascinated me in the show and it's one of the main moments I always think about re: time travel on the show.

Thank you! I will be back with more later, I am sure.
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[personal profile] sanguinity 2013-05-22 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I am so very glad you liked! I'm ecstatic that you thought to ask for time travel, because yay. :-D

Derek and Charles Fischer: how many times have the two of them been around that causality loop?? I WANT TO KNOW HOW IT STARTED. Because at this point, they mostly just seem to be maintaining an existing pattern, the two of them. But SOMETHING set that off. Either Fischer being snatched up by Skynet (how did he survive that first time, if not by being in prison?), or Derek/Jesse mistaking him for a collaborator. (Where are all the timelines-we-didn't see fics for this show?)

YES that thing with Andy and Derek. I don't think I'd quite noticed on earlier watches that Andy was giving him The Nod. (I struggled so much while watching in real-time with recognizing that Bobby Wisher = Andy Goode, and in distinguishing him from the rest of the resistance fighters. [Apparently all dimly lit scruffily-shaved white guys blur together for me.] This is something I love about vidding: an excuse to root through the details of the text, and make all the connections I missed while watching the show at speed.)
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[personal profile] sanguinity 2013-05-28 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
And there's also the bit where the only reason DEREK EVEN KNOWS about Fischer's actions in that other timeline, is because Jesse told him. Which makes whatever Derek's involvement is totally dependent on Jesse's actions.

But yeah, that differential choice about who to shoot is fascinating. Derek going for young!Fischer is not too surprising: it's exactly in keeping with his decision about Andy. But Jesse is willing to sacrifice others for a mission, cf Riley or the sailors who died behind the fire door on the sub. But not here. This is not her mission.